Ponzi Scheme Victims Speak Out
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Thousands of people were victimized by Bernard Maidoff. We gathered some of them here in our studio today to tell their stories. I understand that Ronnie Sue, you and your husband and Norma were in the courtroom today. What was that like? And I I I really didn't feel too much walking in. Sitting there um listening to Maid Off talking didn't mean anything. the man doesn't tell the truth. And he admitted he didn't tell the truth. What was the atmosphere like for you, Norma? Well, I personally felt that I needed to go there and I needed to to have the judge uh not permit him to go back to his apartment because to me that would have been the ultimate insult to every one of us that have invested with his company. I needed to see him go to jail. You actually testified. I did. What did you say and why was that important for you? I needed to ask the judge before he took the plea of guilty to make sure that he learned two things. And one was where is our money? And number two is who else worked with Mr. Maid off in this. How many of you believe Bernard Maid off acted alone? None of us. None of us. Too comprehensive. too much paperwork that came uh every quarter. I think it was um you know, lots of paperwork. He couldn't generate all that himself. I want to go to Linda. You work for an orthopedic group in Fairfield, Connecticut, and contributed to your pension fund for over 20 years. Correct. Now, is retiring a pipe dream for you? I have nothing. I have nothing left now. I made a lot of financial decisions in the over the course of the years based on what I thought I was going to have in my 401k. Now I'm praying that I I have good health that I can continue to work. What about you, Ron? You're a financial planner, which of course comes with its own baggage being involved in this situation. Some people might think, how could you get involved in this thing? Yeah. and and a very conservative financial planner at that um and someone that did a fair amount of due diligence on this project um way back. Did you recommend other people invest with Bernard Maid off? I had one friend that I had recommended to Bernard Maidoff. Beyond that, no. um that it's ju just the fact that I myself did not insist on moving funds out um is somewhat embarrassing that I stand here or sit here today as an investment adviser and someone who is fairly successful in in doing what I do. Um, it really just shows the magnitude of the the the quality of the crime that was committed here and the duplicity, the unintended duplicity, no doubt, by the government to help enable this to happen. You two are retired high school teachers. He did not scam only super wealthy people, did he? No. And in fact, I've been retired for um about six years now. And part of what enabled me to retire was the savings that we had built up over the past how many years would you say? 20 26 27 years. 27 years. And um it was all on paper. Um, we just put our oldest daughter through college and I wish we had used more from the maid off account. What about you, Ken? You're the mayor of Fairfield, Connecticut, and the town of Fairfield lost a tremendous amount of money in pensions for people like firefighters and police officers. For every millionaire celebrity, there are hundreds and hundreds of middle class Americans that got wiped by this fraud. uh we have our police officers, our firefighters, our school custodians, and in effect 10% of their pensions, two to three years of their livelihood for pensioners that are middle class Americans has been stolen. And uh that's why we're seeking recourse from our adviserss, from the managers that introduced this our town to this this these people. Uh and there certainly had to have been a lot of people involved. Diane, I know you invested over $3 million with Bernard Maidoff. Uh the total was approximately $3.2 million. It's gone. It's gone. Yeah. I understand this has taken a real toll on your husband. My husband is suffering from severe depression now. Um he's he just can't get over it. He he is uh really not functioning well. That's why he's not here. Um and I have a 10-year-old and a 13-year-old and they see what's happening with their father and it's just heart-wrenching to me. My son is 13. He looked up to his father. He He needed his father. My My daughter adores her father, but he's just not the same person. Meanwhile, Cheryl, you're a CPA. Yeah. You invested your personal money with Bernard Maidoff. Knew him personally for 20 years. Yes. Obviously, not not very well, but then, you know, I'm not alone in that. How did he lure people into feeling that he was going to, as he told Norma, take care of everything? Well, I I think Bernie didn't really ask for money. His thing was to be asked. His it was a whole aura and people were just very grateful to be able to place their money with him. Do you feel embarrassed because you are a CPA that you weren't able to sort of smell that something wasn't right here? You know, truthfully, if anybody says that they they could have or first of all, if they could have, they should have said something. But there's a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking going on here. There's a lot of, "Oh, you should have s this, you should have saw that." Well, no. I'm not embarrassed how I feel. I feel that somebody stole my money. I didn't lose my money. It was stolen from me. And you're still angry. Uh, when somebody steals from you, yes, you remain angry.
A Buyer's Market
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this is where the tragedy of foreclosures turns into New Hope 9:00 a.m. on a Sunday morning in New York City and more than a thousand biders sign in for a foreclosure auction I also registered as a broker looking for looking to buy a house at 50 or 60 cents on the dollar well I've got my bidding number Carolina Madero has her eye on this it's uh 291 it's located in New rochell it's a very nice house after seeing an ad for the auction Carolina who's single and works for MasterCard toured the house in a New York suburb valued at $500,000 her limit was 300,000 is this an opportunity you couldn't afford to miss yes absolutely not even though it makes me nervous I think I could not miss it like kolina most of the biders plan to live in the houses 200 are up for sale one sales nearly every 2 minutes, 185 this is basically a clearance sale it is it's basically a clearance sale and business for Rob fredman's real estate disposition Corporation is booming there's a lot more foreclosures than there has ever been the auction company holds sales like this almost every day somewhere in the country last year the company sold more than 30,000 foreclosed properties this year they expect to sell 50,000 when Carolina's lot came up number 291 she jumped in quickly the bidding went over her $300,000 limmit but then it's stalled at$ 305,000 I'll take 310 suddenly karolina threw up her hand again with the winning bid how do you feel I'm excited and nervous too but yes I'm excited she called her friends I got the house and signed the papers is this going to be cash or is this going to be Finance in minutes a casualty of the housing crisis had become a bargain for its new owner Anthony Mason CBS News New York